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Nude Female in need of critiques (nudity)

Well the model is nude… not me ofcourse. Wouldn’t that be embrassing? :lol:

Anyway I’m doing this model for work but I am not happy with it right now. I feel it can be improved alot. My boss, Hazardous helped me alot with this but suggested I post here for more advanced critiques.
I’m still learning and have a long way to go so hit me with all you can give :smiley:

Thank you in advance! <3

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Only if u decide to tell, it looks like it already crossed ur mind!
I wonder!

anyway,

Good start, there r problems in the knees, the pelvis, the feet(toes r not strait they point out a bit), the overall curves of the legs(thigh is sopposed to be offset the lower leg) & her crotch needs to go down a bit…
even if she’s floating like superman, her waight needs to be balanced,(in the side view) her legs r a bit loose like a rag they need to go back a bit.
the knees r not strait, recheck her proportions…the anatomy can be better
these might be helpfull
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I like it alot. I had an ex with toes that pointed out. She was gorgeous.

I like the form of this model alot. Especially around the middle. She doesn’t look ‘emaciated’ like many of the female models that have been posted in the past (not just here). I guess anorexia is considered anatomically correct for some reason.

Sorry if I didn’t have an advanced critique for you, I just think it looks great. Besides, I don’t really know what you don’t like about it so can’t really say what needs changed. Fair enough? IMHO CG anatomical realism, as it’s often defined or (critiqued for that matter) by some users, isn’t all that accurate… and like mine, is normally just a speculative opinion, only partly based on real anatomy study. If you’ll notice, the first reference’s arms are a bit short. The hands are typically a little closer to the kneecap. (not too close! that would look dorky!) Stand up, and try. You’ll see what I mean.The ones in the ana-ref could be off by at least 3-4 inches. They seem to be closer to the hip/buttox area than the midthigh/knee area.

Anyway, enough babble. She’s going to look nice textured. Keep workin’ on 'er!


~ wonders how many different types of real live female bodies many anatomy critiquers here have actually seen, and/or would they critique that significant other in much the same way… or do they… just keep it to themselves? ~

hrmm, I wonder if a dragon ever came in here and would say something like “the tail was too long” or “too much fire”, etc,… ok enough sillyness. I guess it’s time for bed now.

On that note…

~ wanders off elsewhere minding his own business ~

Overall I think she looks pretty good, but to me the breasts seem like they’re sitting rather high on her torso and personally I would give her a slightly longer neck.

… if you compare her to the image that SIdiMenTion posted from loomis with the live model, your proportions are off. Paying respect to the chart would fix her up nicely.

Oh wow! Thanks everyone for spending the time to reply <3

SIdiMenTion: Thank you very much for the reference and the tips. I will use these today in trying to fix her up. I think I need to go back to sub1 and focus on getting her proportions right.

Lumin8: Thank you for your thoughts :slight_smile: I have often wondered such things myself but know that until I get better I can’t really try to deviate away from the ‘standard’. I have always seen people down the street that aren’t 3D perfect but are none the less very beautiful in their own way. I will try to perfect the recipe first I think, before trying to change it ^^
I wanted her to look like a normal lady so I gave her a bit of cellulite and a bit of a belly. Hehe, my boss tried to smooth them out :stuck_out_tongue:
Thank you for your post and I will post more progress as the days go by. I have to get it done before Feb 26 including texturing.

funnybones: Thanks for those tips, I see what you mean. I will experiment with a longer neck too. I hope its just not the perspective.

Youre welcom, it’s always better if u were ur own critiq…
these r just guides…to understand how things work…in reality perfect is imperfect…everyone knows that.

Lumin8: yeah man, toes r supposed to point out perfect or imperfect, check yours:)

Lol. No, I understand the guidelines and why they need following. It’s like anything we learn or anything we’re trying to excel at. Sort of like the musician that can just fly all over the place with 50 thousand notes flawlessly, but never learned to actually tune the dang thing (I’ve known quite a few). So, as a result it actually sounds terrible and out of tune with everyone else. heheh

I hope no one was offended, I was just being a goofball. This place is alot of fun, and I have a deep respect for many of you who actually take the time to be constructive with your criticisms. It’s what motivates us and makes us better. I can hardly even glance at my older work. hell, I even cringe looking at some recent stuff. Especially from hanging out here so much. lol. I’ve always said it. If you wanna go pro, you’ve gotta hang out with the pros.

I think funnybones is right about the breasts, they’re kinda throwing the shoulders off. The neck appears fine but that might be a good option to lengthen… maybe just a tiny hair thinner. Not too much.

SIdiMenTion: rofl! I once knew another girl who had the toe next to her big toe stick way out further then the rest of them. I joked with her all the time, saying that that it was simply an adaptation that must have happened during puberty. She had a very large chest. You know, balance. :wink: I guess if her butt were bigger she’d need bigger heels too. :smiley:

Lumin: I certainly wasn’t offended. It takes alot to offend me lol. I (hopefully) fixed a few things here and there with it. I should have taken a render but was rushed out of the office without the propper time to make one D:
After looking at it for 8 hours a day doing stupidly small tweaks here and there I loose focus on whats right. Its good to get some fresh eyes on it and everyones imput is extreamly appreciated ^^
Oh btw, I gots that toe thing. O_o I was a fairly tall girl growing up so maybe it was adaptation for keeping balanced xD

Tomorrow is detailing pores and eyebrows and stuff. Then next week is all textures. I need it finnished by 4:30 next friday. I need to get the skin looking tops.

SiD: I made her a bit more proportionate I think. I wasnt allowed to make her normal, but I tried to stick to the proportions as much as I could within a “game characters physique” Thanks for your imput ^^

I think she looks perfect mate. No crits from me, just a :+1: .

I look forward to seeing her textured.


Oh btw, I gots that toe thing. O_o I was a fairly tall girl growing up so maybe it was adaptation for keeping balanced xD

Nice! lol Yes, perhaps.

Looking forward to your progress.

Cheers guys ^^
Psp: Its nice to see more Aussies here :smiley: high five!

Well here is some progress. Changed the face yesterday, she went though a few different looks before we just settled with a modified original version -_-’ but thats okay I dont mind this one now. I added more fat and made her look less like a alien heh.
Also defined her a bit more. I also adjusted her proportion a bit and tried to point her toes out more, but cause of the angle of the foot it doesnt show it D:
I want to fix the dodgy hair but I dont think I will have enough time. I might pull some OT to sneak it in. :wink:

Enough chit chat, on with the goods!
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Check the size of the shoulders and head, I think you could make them just a bit larger (head larger and shoulders wider) and the neck muslces are too pronounced. Overall the main proportions are looking good. Also for rigging purposes I would keep the feet postioned flat and raise the arms a bit, inbetween 45 and 90 degrees.
And the jaw goes too far back bring the ears forward, the back of the head may be too large in proportion to the skull, the overall head could be larger.
hope this helps
Cheers:+1:

As I said, you’re your own critiq. keep working.

lumin: If that’s ur idea of wight distribution…
Then a chicken is the 8th wonder of the world!!
Oh…right…Kong already took that place!
Poor chicken!!
Dragons, gorrillas, chickens…Man, this is turning into a zoo!!

More animals, anyone??:stuck_out_tongue:

Looks great! Like the clothes.

No, that was my idea of sillyness. Besides, they are birds… chicken legs bend the other way at the knee and their bones are lightweight enough to where there really isn’t much weight dist at all. That was probably your point, as you very comedically put it. Unless, of course, we’re talking about obese chickens. Fat obese, couch potato, lummox chickens that eat at mcdonalds daily… sometimes thrice on sunday. Besides, I’m more knowledgeable with alien anatomy than earth dwelling anatomy. Talk about some truly incredible exceptions to known physics. And how, my friend…

Now, insects on the other hand… oh, just never you mind.

Lumin:D : My favourit!
I never knew a chicken was a bird! thanks man for the info!:lol:
Seriously…

:)Remember…we’re all having fun.

My friend, I’m sure your knowledge is far more better then mine, not just alien anatomy but in everything else…u even have a better sence of humor.

happy zbrushing;)

LoL! You guys are crazy! But I like it. <3:lol:
What about velocaraptors and T-rex? Same as chicken?

I didnt get much done yesterday as I had to do some FX stuff, but I have started on detailing the face. Now that I look at it the head is too fat at the back. Or something … slaps head

Stop! Image time. Doo do do do…

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I think this is Erklaerbar’s matcap. Its nice green bronze <3

Kong AND the Dinosaurs???

Maaan, that chicken has the toughest bad luck I’ve ever seen!!!
Now it got squashed!!!:lol:
Pooooooor chicken!!!:lol:
Seriously…

Lumin:D can explain better then I can;) keep workin’.

Happy zbrushin’ everyone;)

Anuxinamoon: Looking fabulous, dahling! Don’t go hurting yourself, take it out on the model if you have to. Lolz. Remember, you can’t use smooth or flatten on your own head. Just some expert advice there for ya. You know. :wink: :lol:

SIdiMenTion: You’re wrong! YOU need to stick to the technical stuffs and let good 'ole Lumin8 (moi) handle the smart ass antics. Alright then, buddy? ;):wink: Know your place in the universe, young Skywalker. Oh, and on zxamuzha Chickens are not birds. They’re edible but they actually look more like green string beans with strange and slimy tentacles that protrude from the base. Strange that they decided to call them chickens isn’t it? They must have been off watching way too many old Star Trek re-runs. Good times… good times…

Anux: Take his advice, he knows what he’s talking about from experience;):smiley:

LLLumin Allmighty:D !!! My favorite LLLLumin:D !!

Wake up n smell the coffee.

I’ve already handed it to U Obi wan!! I’m sure ur going all “Jim carry” on everyone by now!!! :lol:

That’s right… buddy… go back to ur alien whatever, Earthly matters don’t suit u all MIGHTY LLLumin:D !!

I’d wish u luck but I’m too busy watching Cartoon re-runs:D!!! thank U very much 4 reminding Me of Star Trek that’s next on my list!!

Happy Zbrushing;) ALL MIGHTY… llllumin!

p.s. ofcourse i’ll leave the smart ass antics to u, I have no interest in matters of the Ass! Just the tech. stuff …

The Smart too I’ve already handed to u… buddy:cool:

Anumxinamoon: Just want to say, I love your work and am inspired that you are so good at what you do. Someday I’ll have something worthy to show here. I’ve only been doing this for a little over a year as a serious thing, so It’s always inspiring to see someone rock out a kicking model. Whatever their style or background. I’m sorry I don’t have all these technical critiques or pointers for you, but I’m definitely enjoying what I’m seeing. Cheers, and hope to see more soon. You definitely deserve some top-row action.


SIdiMenTion: Just what is it that you’re on about there, brother? I thought that we had gotten over this at the first leg of the thread. Why not, let’s keep the badmouthing out of it. I never once mentioned your name in my first post, but you are obviously offended. Let’s not assume that when someone says something about what you feel is your forte, or your place of expertise, that they’re indeed talking about you. It’s Not All About You…

Man…

My comments about anatomy critiquers are for humour purposes only. Even if it’s for my own entertainment, you should have just kept it at that. You assumed I was talking about you and to you directly. Not so.

Now, come on. Anumxinamoon is doing great work. You’re not doing much of a service to her by going on the way that you are. Wouldn’t you agree now? Even THIS piece that I’ve seperated with a -------- is distracting. I just thought it would be good for you to know that the world indeed does not revolve around you and to have some respect for your fellow artist, even when they’re NOT praising YOU.

…and as you like to say ever so sarcastically: Happy Zbrushing.