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Gypsy Wagon - WIP

Also known as a vardo. As I work on this, I will add lots of bright colors (especially once we figure out how to apply different textures to subtools) and adorn it with the usual embellishments that these wagons are known for.

I made the wagon wheel rims in ZBrush, but went to lightwave to add the axle and spokes. I tried it in ZBrush (and it was fine), but I created the wheel as a tool on it’s own, with subtools. When I try to append the multi-sub wheel to the main wagon model, only the spokes came in. I didn’t want to add all the various elements as subtools (4 in all) because then I would have 16 new subtools (4 for each wheel). I already have 18 subtools in this model as it is. It would be great once we can easily collapse subtools. I tried the “Insert Mesh” method described in other threads, but that doesn’t allow alignment. At least, not that I’ve been able to figure out.

Anyway, this is a WIP, so feedback is appreciated. I would like to figure out how the undercarriage should look, but am having trouble finding references that make it easier to see.

The railings across the top and the decorative trim on the porch were made by applying a texture as an alpha to mask a polyplane, then hide the unmasked parts, then set a morph target, offset a little bit, then create morph difference. This took me a couple of hours to figure out, after trying several other methods including Make3d from Alpha. That was way too many polygons and frankly didn’t look as smooth as what I have here.

Anyway, I hope you all like it.

Wagon.jpg

Hardbody modeling with Zbrush, always cool! I tired to find some pictures that show the undercarriage, but not much luck. I could only find this, this, and this. (last one pretty funny:D)

I did a horse drawn wagon as a part of a cgtalk challenge, as usual the challenge was unfinished :), but the wagon was as good as finished.

The biggest difficulty I had was finding good photo’s for reference, especially for the chassis.

Then I thought about ebay …

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&itemid=260119381327&itemsiteid=0&itemstate=1&query=Antique+horse+drawn+wagon-can+be+covered&sibeleafcat=3154&sim=y&ssPageName=VINS%3ASIM

google:-

covered wagon, prairie wagon, and look at the images, there are loads there …

edit:

here’s a particularly good one from ebay,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Restored-Horse-Drawn-Wagon_W0QQitemZ180119404909QQihZ008QQcategoryZ11757QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

if you put sort by highest price first, you get rid of the toys :slight_smile:

Just beutifull Slosh :+1:

Andreseloy

Nice ! Seems to be coming along nicely, looking forward to updates. :+1: :+1: :+1:

Slosh,

There are several threads already in the troubleshooting forums on how to add diff textures to diff subtools. :slight_smile:

Plakkie: were there supposed to be links in your post? Don’t see any…

Hobo: how ironic that you are the one who found some links (Hobo:Gypsy) Thanks for those, I have copied the pictures to my resource folder

Crusoe, thanks for the info. If they are the threads I think you are talking about, I started one of them and contributed to the other…but I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. :smiley:

Thank-you andresloy…means alot coming from you

Namek, thanks for your help the other night…I wouldn’t have thought of this if we hadn’t been brainstorming

I’m still trying to figure out how to do the undercarriage. Maybe it shouldn’t matter, since in this view you can’t see underneath. But I would like to do a turntable when it’s finished, and that might matter.

Anyone know what a carriage or wagon is supposed to look like? How do the axles attach to the underside of the wagon? Most pix I’ve seen are very difficult to make out.

Looking good Brian. I am looking up funeral carriages suspension systems now…here is one…
ron
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edit…

Hey Brian I think this link is exactly what you are looking for…

http://www.humanist.de/rome/rts/wagon.html

when you get there, just scroll on down…they have schematic drawings etc of what you are after I believe.

hope this helps.

Ron

Ron, how on Earth are you the one person that is working on something similar? Thanks for the picture and the link. I think it’s exactly what I needed.

No, you misunderstood…lol…I just went on the net and looked for ya is all…but…I recently did a cart similiar, but mine sucked so bad,unlike yours. Love your works Bri…looking forward to your updates.
Ron
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Yeah, I did misunderstand…I thought when you said “I am looking up funeral carriages…” that you meant you were working on one. Hey, not an unheard of assumption, being as you tend to go the death/macabre direction.