Hi!
I have been working on a male and female nudes to improve my anatomy skills.
Please, let me know what doesn’t feel right or should be tweaked.
Many Thanks!
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I have a comment on the anatomical subject, not about the Zbrush usage technical aspect and, please don’t take me wrong as I were picking on you since, in fact, I’ll point to something I regularly see on most artist nowadays.
I don’t know if you noticed it or if it’s intentionally done but the male figure is notoriously fit than the female. While equally -I guess- trying to apply the same no-comicbooks-be-mature-be-realistic-please style on both characters, male has very defined muscles and strong features while the female looks weak, flabby and not sexually interesting at all. The rule’d say “make them all mundane-realistic/hero-idealized/whatsoever-etc at the same level, not just some” and I too often see most artist (here and everywhere else) doing male characters more graceful (more slender, better facial expressions, attitudes, poses, etc) than the females, drawing beautiful girls only by client’s request or for some twisted message (i.e. kinky, grotesque, etc) piece, not to even mention the fear of drawing large breasts, like if them and the female figure overall were some kind of ancient evil to avoid. As I see it, that’s not machismo nor homosexuality but some kind of applied-to-art misogyny . I like Pin-Up art but doing them gorgeous only for that occasion is kind of offensive, like saying “pretty girls ain’t clever” or “a busty woman can’t be protagonist of a interesting/intellectual/sophisticated story, that’s not serious”. I’d like to see some changes in the future, but disappointingly today people says that the idealized and exuberant female image in the mainstream media (video-games, movies, etc) is not a good example for the young ones, that it gives them a false image of what a woman should be while, in fact, they are being said that features that are anatomically inherent to the female figure are something bad (even worst if they are stunning).
Anyway, and I repeat, if you apply a style over your characters you should be fair with each one of them. Want a mundane-realistic style? perfect, but make the male thinner, a bit bald, with a narrow retracted jaw, some dewlap and some volume on the waist zone. Just as they are right now, the woman doesn’t match the man (they are not way too far, though), either “uglify” the male or raise the female figure a bit.
macaco, I hope you don’t take me wrong, you are very skilled and I like your art but this is something I wanted to say. For anyone else reading, thanks, sorry for this in-negative-mood overview and no, I don’t know where I’ve left my pink glasses today. I just can’t find them.
Hi Serek,
Thanks for the comments. I think you have a valid point there, both characters should have a closer look in style. But I believe men can develop defined muscles more easily than women by nature.
I actually was planning to do a “more natural” male and female with weight and less visible muscles but I didn’t do them for several reasons.
- I wanted to do a fairly average male and female (proportion wise) that I could potentially refer to or use in the future.
- I planned to practive the anatomy placing the muscles right, and fat people have them more hidden.
- It’s much more difficult to get the weights of a fat person right so I thought I would do thin ones first.
And I must say I love human body types like “selwy” does.
Having said that I was planning make the abs of the male less defined as I believe they stand out too much.
Thanks
Tru, but most men doesnt look like that, not even a little bit athletic. Blame the fastfood. I still understand you choosing going this way, because you study anatomy, and the best way to make good anatomy is to understand how the muscles flow. Then you can apply fat, when you have the proper understanding of the underlaying layer.
Do you have any special reason for sculpting the hands the way you do? Hands are the area I struggle the most with, the always end up looking weird.
Nice work. A couple of things that strike me is that the arch to the spine could be emphasised a little more, and the arrangement of the toes is very square (which actually is how toes would naturally look, but modern day shoe wearing people have the toes more bunched up).
Thanks for the feedback, here are some updates with the changes:
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