The thing is there’s no perspective actually, and you dont see the curvature of the back, the girl is bend behind, and her neck is not aligned to the torso, its bend forward, so it plays a lot on the torso shape…
But her breast can be too big for you, but once again perspective affect size feeling, and you can easily fin bigger breast than this, natural or not!
skipstah70 there’s no such thing as too large breasts dude:D .The bigger the better
Probably contraversial but I wanted to ask.
This model is stunning I agree. I love the detail in it but as a piece of art whats its point? Is it titilation? Why is she nude? Whats the story behind the image?
It seems to be a big thing in 3d work that people create very beautiful models and ‘things’ but dont actually create art.
It may be this model is for some bigger picture that we are yet to see of course. In that case there will be a point.
Just wondered. Not trying to annoy anyone or detract from the skill of this modeller or others who follow the same path.
Cheers
Mike R
Great work, Sebcesoir.
Mike, I see 3D models as sculptures and able to stand alone as works of art if exceptionally well crafted, lit and rendered. After all, with 3D printing advances all 3D models will eventually be able to be output as real life sculptures.
The girl is a tourist, that came out from her shower. She cut her toesnails and suddenly realise theres one longer than the ohters.
she think in herself “damn IM studpid…”
Where’s the point if there’s no Art ?
What is Art ? Would we be obliged to always do Art ?
As far as I’m concerned, I would say that there’s two kind of people on this planet. The Artists, and the Scientists. The first ones are trying to make people feel, the other ones are trying to make people see and understand.
That’s two very different ways to explore a thema. But achieving an excellent result, weither the way, is really difficult and requiers lots of hard work and talent.
So, where’s the point if there’s no Art ? Well, watching the result and the progress of someone who explores new boundaries in the 3D realm is reason enough, I think. To me, the point is going always a little bit further to the line where 3D and real become merged and unrecognizable.
Sorry for this little philosophical babbling.
Bye !
Dont worry. I was just interested in finding out what folks thought. I tended to get bored of the Poser crew due to nude model overflow without any reason other than it could be done. lol.
I see some stunning models created here but not many within a story anymore.
Art can be different things to people so I dont disagree that it could be termed a sculpture.
Maybe I see things too black and white. To me I see that with most 3d images the ‘story’ is, look what I (the creator) can do with this software.
Going back to the model in this thread I will say again that I find it amazing what some folks can do. I would find it even more amazing, if with that same model I felt something for her other than she’s a bonny lass.
Mike R
it turned out stunningly beautiful, great job! I admire how you did hte hair the most
Do you know the ‘Mazur is going to Hawaii-foundation’? SEND THE MONEY!!
BTW, I also take the buttheadman with me, so he cannot see anything!
I think this image is evocative rather than titilating. It’s the difference between “nude” and “naked”, if that makes any sense. One’s relaxed, and expresses a beauty found only in nature. (You might look at this as glorifying god’s creation, in as much as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.) The other’s pretty much opposite – it captures or synthesizes a moment of pure manipulation.
The fact that you question the artist’s motivation should tell you it’s in that first category. The other one would have left no room for interpretation.
I’ll actually take this a step further and say this one’s more artistic than any image where the story is easily gleaned.
Is there a story here? Of course. But it’s up to us to decide the details. Myself, I say this woman came to a tropical island on business, but saw how much more relaxed than her everyone was, and decided to abandon her old way of life. In this moment, she is literally walking away from it, confronting her fears and coming to terms with herself.
Is my interpretation true to what the artist was thinking? Probably not. The art has a life of it’s own, you see.
We each interact with it differently, as it engages us. That’s the point.
Hmmm… I’m not sure with you guys who say that this image is about “beauty” and not nudity (nothing being wrong with either of course). This image is so overtly about her breast that it isn’t funny… Look at the original reference photo… you can see that the area of interest is about the line / silhouette of the neck and head and not the breasts (that aren’t even in the picture!). If you can create an image like this (nude) and make the central point something other than a breasts…or other obvious areas… then that’s more of a challenge and might be a step toward evoking the “artistic”. That being said… it doesn’t take away from the fact this is a great model… and fine display of craftsmanship.
S
skipstah70, what you see is only a crop of the original photo…
On the full photo you can see the breast of the girl how I did it…
The interest of this picture is just not only the breast, and actually your the first who seems to focus on it. And finally… Why not?
Hey skipstah70. After my initial glance at the image, which took less than half a second I guess, I found myself looking at the detail in the face, hair, ears and flowers for a LONG time. It was then that I DECIDED to move down to the breasts for a goosey. All your post says to me is that you’ve got loose eyeballs and/or YOU think the image is all about the breasts.
I don’t I’m afraid, but I can see where you’re coming from.
PEACE.
I don’t believe anyone’s saying the nudity isn’t significant. We’re saying that if you were to draw a line between “art” and “pornography”, you’d find the human form to be a popular theme on both sides of the line. What seperates the two is what we’re describing.
Really, it’s fine that you can’t see the distinction – just accept on faith that there is one, 'cause those of us saying we can see it… can.
Hey Craig… the reason you looked at the head and eyes first… is because we’re biologically programmed to seek out faces and features in others… especially the eyes. Unfortunately that doesn’t qualify the focal point of this image as such. A few things that make the breast the real focal point are… 1. the downward angle of head and downcast eyes specifically which point the viewer to the breasts (doesn’t happen in the ref photo). 2. breast area is the highest contrast in the imageplane (contrast between background and ribcage just under the breasts). 3. the protruding arch of the back and exaggerated largeness of rib cage and breasts… also extra image room below them gives them more importance.
I don’t think anyone thinks that there is anything wrong with the nudity… but the question as someone put it before was whether it was gratuitous. i.e. is this image as strong or stronger without “them” in the picture (personally yes). What does their inclusion say? is she “reflecting” about her breasts etc… These are artistic questions… The model is still great whatever way you slice it.
S
nice job!
Femme portant un fruit 1892
Sebcesoir:
claps Really Great Work!
Keep posting Your Work its Awsom to see your workflow!
Graig Ward:
Many artist see the female and male body as an Artform… It also is the first thing what many people want to create after they have become a bit better in modeling in any packedge.
Reason why is simply because we interact with the humanspecies EVERYDAY.
And yes thats the first thing what came in my mind when i opened a 3d/2d modeling program and start learning the basics for the first time. Creating humans is what drawned me into 3d/2d in the first place…
And NO…this does not have anything to do with you as the artist being a pervert Craig Ward…
Besides, personaly i believe you can create whatever you want in 2d or 3d…there are no rules or boundries there.
Its your own fantasie.
Just that you have to know that with great power comes great responsibility. Dont show art in certain places where people will be offended or will misunderstand your art.
(Nudity or no Nudity…doesnt really matter for a true artist because he/she only sees it as a Artform from his/her own fantasie…and besides we are born naked so what is the big deal anyways?..its because we started to wear cloths and stuff like that waaay back cause of Eva’s Apple what made certain people act weired to see other peoples bodyparts…what is the real reason why people start wearing clothes btw, even though it is those bodyparts what makes us really human doesnt it?..In other words a breasth should be looked at as just a normal thing if you think about it)
What i am really saying is:
We finaly are now capable to create realistic humans in 3d software…if you think about it…thats just to good to be true…to create and animate LIVE in a program. And thats how many people think aswel i believe.
And besides creating humans, make ALOT of other things what you have dreamed of in fantasie finaly come true in reallife.
Only thing left to do now is to create 3d/2d art with holograms so we can make an entire new world what really exist in rl.
Fabulous, especially when it was done!
ZB2 has exceeded the 'verse and we have all learned much since.
Simply making pores everywhere is no longer enough— we must know where and how much all skin textures receive.
And where to get more RAM!