ummm ok then.
I gathered most are equal to each other by like modeling, rendering, and so on. Sorry for the confusion there. So then which one should I use Maya(which I have) or 3ds Max(which I can get).
Not really by which is better, but which one is easier and more user friendly.
Honestly, you really are asking the wrong question. What you need to ask yourself is, “what do I want to do with 3D?” If you want to get into games, then Max is the better way to go because that’s the program that’s most used in that industry. If you’re looking at movies, then Maya is probably the better bet. Different programs have been embraced by different industries.
Please do not ask “which program is better” kinds of questions because you’ll never get an accurate response. Everyone is biased, based on their own backgrounds, preferences and needs. To get a truly useful response you would need to hear from someone with equal experience and comfort in both of the programs being compared – something you’re unlikely ever to find.
So figure out what you want to do with 3D, then research to find out what software is being used for that industry. After that, hunker down and learn the app(s)! It won’t matter if the program is easier than another or not. What will matter is that you’ll be devoting your time working toward your personal goal.
Thank you that really helped, honestly.
You answered what I was really wondering about, which one to use for which purpose. B/c I’ve noticed that most will use Max or something but few will use Maya. Now then, I would like to do video games, what exactly makes Max the better choice for doing games?
Perhaps you should go here for better discussion on Max…
Poser Prejudice
Unfortunately I’m trying to start a serious graphics company with some friends. One of my partners told me that the industry looks down on poser.
However, I’ve been using to make my comic strips for a college paper. Compared to Maya, I’ll agree its not for video games, bu’t I can’t agree it’s for animation. There are just too many better animations programs which include better model making tools for me to agree.
However, as far as illustration goes, Poser it very powerful start. That’s why some of the comic industry has embraced poser for it’s speed instead of Maya fro comics like “Batman” and “X-men”.
We’re getting a full version of Maya for about 2000 dollars. Compared to Poser at 300 I say buy poser. However, Daz 3d Studio is 
free and works like poser.
Before you buy poser try Daz3d at www.daz3d.com
_Lingartist
Poser Prejudice
Unfortunately, I’m trying to start a serious graphics company with some friends and one of my partners told me that the industry looks down on Poser.
However, I’ve been using to make my comic strips for a college paper. Compared to Maya, I’ll agree it’s for video games, but’ I can’t agree it’s for animation. There are just too many better animations programs which include better model making tools for me to agree. However, as far as illustration goes, Poser is very powerful start. That’s why the comic industry has embraced poser for it’s speed instead of Maya for comics like “batman” and “x-men”.
We’re getting a full version of Maya for about 2000 dollars. Compared to Poser at 300 I say buy poser. However, Daz 3d Studio is :lol: free :lol: and works like poser.
Before you buy poser try Daz3d at www.daz3d.com
_Lingartist
because poser is not a serious 3d modelling app but just used to create characters that can easily be recognized by the experienced eye as poser-made. maya/3ds max/blender 3d/lightwave on the other hand can be used to make ANYTHING! That’s why they require a lot of study & training & practice to get any good at.
Great reply, Aurick.
Gibraltor, have you ever asked someone what shovel it is they’re using when they’re digging a hole? Asking about 3D software, at times, is just as pointless. At the end of the day, you pick the tool that allows you to get whatever you want to do done, the way you like to do it. No one questions shovels because everyone knows they’re built for one task- digging. 3D software is the same, except many tools make up a single program, like Maya or Max. So, a 3D suite is like a collection of tools… shovels, rakes, etc.
Here’s the thing though- If you like digging holes with a bent shovel, then you can do that. If you’re faster using a rake instead of a leaf blower to move leaves, you can do that too… even if everyone else thinks you’re dumb for doing so. And, if you like using the worst bit of software to make games, you can do that too (and I’ve done that one, personally). That’s why we say there’s no ‘better or worse’ choice for everyone. Sometimes you might want to learn a bit of software because a certain company uses it, but most of the time it’s good to start with what you like using. It often makes learning much more enjoyable.
Download as many trials as you can, read manuals, play around, and dig some holes with them shovels!
Sounds good, thank you guys for your input on the matter. Sooooo I can use anything for anything(Zbrush not included). If that’s the case I think I’ll use Maya b/c I have a book on it lol.
Off topic but how do you go about making clothes for a model, plus how do you put the clothes you made for your model…on your model.
using cloth simulations. As I once said, “learn to crawl before you learn to walk”
hehe ok…
One last thing- don’t be a pirate, buy your software. That means, if you can’t afford Maya, use the personal learning edition, or use a free (or low cost) program like Blender or Wings3D and save your pennies for Maya. Too many beginners use pirate copies these days thinking nothing will happen to them for it. Bad things happen to pirates, trust me on that. Also, owning your software will increase your dedication to learning that one tool. Plus, it supports the developers, who don’t deserve being ripped off.
true that, although some programs really don’t have a free trial version. And most that do have a time period so you really don’t get to work it much. Soooo in some sense I don’t think pirate stuff is tooooo bad as long as you buy the program in the end.
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Soooo in some sense I don’t think pirate stuff is tooooo bad as long as you buy the program in the end.
And how do you know if you’re going to buy it or not, if you’re using the warez copy as a trial version? That’s a bad excuse.
yuriythebest, what you’re missing is that piracy isn’t an action… it’s a way of life, or a habit. That’s not the case with someone who purchases pirate software unknowingly. People who pirate software don’t do it because they can’t get their hands on a trial version. They do it because they’re greedy, and because they know they can get something without having to pay for it. People tell me all the time that when they can afford it they’ll buy the pirated program they use every day. I’ve seen them get the cash, and I’ve seen them do nothing about buying the program they told me they would. Instead, they spend the cash on other things they can’t as easily steal.
You’re right in that if you’re not in the US it’s unlikely you’ll get busted for having pirate software. But, many, many businesses are getting done for using pirate software these days (all around the world) and I think people who form a habit of pirating things put themselves into a dangerous frame of mind. Don’t believe me? No worries… it’s not my problem.
I used to pirate everything I wanted, but for moral reasons I stopped. Most people are morally deficient, so for them I simply say- if you do it, you’re a real dummy for doing so. Besides, it’s not like people need software to survive. If you can’t get a bit of software, just do without it. When you can afford it, buy programs and support the developers who worked hard to bring it to you.
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That’s a lame justification. If you don’t have much money, use cheaper, or even free software. Or, don’t use anything at all. The world is hardly going to end if you don’t use a costly program. No doubt you’ll say the same about pirating software too, but at least I don’t have to come up with an excuse as to why it’s ‘okay’ to use what rightfully isn’t mine.
However for the 99% of people who live in the developing world and are not rich or american, it’s in my view completly ok to use pirated software for educational purposes.
I’m not rich, or American (?). I just save my money for a long time. I’m also a student (with a student’s amount of money in hand), yet I put what I have towards good software because I want that to be my living one day.
…though not in an insane way like saving money for a year to buy a single piece of software and then not having money for the hardware to run it on or anything else.
If you’re not that dedicated then you use your brain and buy the software that’s in your price range. Unless you’re running a business, you don’t need Maya Unlimited, XSI Advanced or the latest Adobe collection (keeping in mind there are learning editions, as well as academic pricing schemes for these kinds of things anyway). What you can do with Blender these days is almost limitless, so there isn’t even the excuse you need a costly program to make decent renders or models. It’s just not true. Heck, I purchased Ulead’s PhotoImpact instead of Photoshop (for a fraction of the price) and worked on a paid project for 8 months with it. It did stellar. Carrara 5 is cheap as chips these days, and can render up a storm.
It’s called- quit making excuses and start thinking like an intelligent artist. Of course, as I said, pirating things (or thinking that’s a good idea) is your problem at the end of the day, but sheesh… I really wish people would stop offering up excuses to steal software, just because they aren’t smart enough to get by without program A or B.
Think about it.
Side note: no personal offence here, I’m just a passionate guy.
none taken I applaud your strong moral values
note: by issuing that statement I in no way imply of using illegal software of any kind myself and am not subject to banning and/or legal prosecution.
Software piracy is bad news. ZBrushCentral has zero tolerance on this subject. Anyone who is found to be using a pirated copy of ANY software (ZBrush or otherwise), or who in any way advocates software piracy will be banned.
Good stuff. I really enjoyed this thread. I’m in the same boat as the original poster looking for a program to work on a movie project with a friend of mine. I haven’t purchased Zbrush yet but I’m saving my pennies. I’m on a mac so I’m probably going to wait until the native version comes out.